Saturday, December 1, 2012

Other news of maybe significance


FT Beyond Brics - Hong Kong luxury sales. Some explanation for the dive in Hong Kong: maybe Macau is stealing business, or maybe the rich Chinese are just going to Milan now to buy their Prada.

Or, of course, maybe the rich Chinese don't want to ostentatiously advertise their wealth anymore, since it's obvious to all that it must have been gained through state corruption.

Bespoke - performance of S&P domestic versus international. This is a major tell of the market, and something more people should look at more often if they want to have a clue what the broad US and international economies are doing (Gary!). And the chart right now says domestics have begun under-performing versus internationals. Maybe cos the international slowdown has bottomed?

FT Beyond Brics - El Salvador and Mongolia: solid bet, or bubble? Me say bubble. Grossly stupid bubble. As if anyone in their right mind should pay a premium to own Mongol debt over Spanish debt! Also, I think this is yet another indication that the Age of Income is at an end, and we're about to switch back to the Age of Capital Gains. I.e., the bear market is almost over.

WSJ Marketbeat - China opening interbank gold market. Dunno what it means, but I bet goldbugs will spin it positively. Personally, I am quite scared of the idea that the grossly illiquid, highly over-leveraged, non-transparent, incompetent and corrupt Chinese banks now have the ability to dump gold on an open market if they ever get, say, financially stressed. Ticking time bomb there.

FT Beyond Brics - Russian consumers rack up debt. Oh good. This was especially funny:
“In Russia, the macro-economic risks are small,” says Natalia Orlova, chief economist at Alfabank, “But the risks in the banking sector are accumulating. Retail lending is becoming a high-risk segment.”
It's usually the Russian men who are the ignorant fucking fools; but this time it's a woman. No macro risks to Russia? Really? So oil is going to stay expensive then? Nickel? Natural gas? Good luck with that!

Frankly the macro risks to Russia are catastrophic, because it's a resource-based economy. A hiccup in China will give Russia a fucking heart attack.

And here's my opinion about the common thread to the last three articles:

If you want an indication of the start of the next secular US equity bull market, according to people like Jim Rogers anyway, you need to see commodities collapse, bonds done, and the emerging markets fucked.

I really think all it'll take is a major economic screwup in China to do all of this. A China collapse (something Asian Tigers-like) would do the following:

1. Tank commodities, since the demographic/economic growth push on commodity prices is what's giving them a speculative premium;
2. Tank the developing world economies, most of which depend on commodity prices, probably destabilizing them in the process;
3. Tank most EM bonds per 2 above;
4. Drive labour utilization out of the developing world and back to the developed world, since obviously a company doesn't want to make their goods in a nation destabilized by economic collapse.

There are probably some effects that I'm missing, but I think that's the way the end of the equity bear/commodity bull will play out.

And if I'm right, that means the whole damn thing will get telegraphed to us, and we'll know well ahead of time that the big machine is turning. It'll play out over a while - a couple years maybe - but eventually that machine will turn.

I'm not saying that's where we are now. I'm saying that's the ultimate endgame, is all.

8 comments:

  1. Tend to agree with your thesis and I see it coming in 6-18 months.

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  2. Thinking more about Mish, but from a 30,000ft viewpoint. On the one hand, he's constantly whakcing into Europe for going into recession but what the econo-meisters did there was along the lines that Mish prefers; non-stimulus hands-off, libertarian-type philosophy. On the other he's whacking into The USA for using Keynesian solutions to its economic inertia and now the USA is starting to see economic green shoots.

    bit of a dumbass, isn't he?

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    1. I got there with just reading a couple of his posts 2 years ago.

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    2. We both know you're smarter than me, no need to rub it in in public

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  3. "In Russia, you don't control macro-economic risks. Macro-economic risks control you." Sorry, I was channeling YS for a second there. ;-) Good stuff as usual. But are you that worried about a China collapse right now? We all saw the China PMI news on Friday: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-01/china-s-manufacturing-pmi-expands-for-a-second-month.html

    Riddle me this: What happens if China's "soft landing" is already baked in? It sure looks like the old guard won the game of Deer Hunter in assigning new posts in the new government. that means old guard solutions -- build infrastructure to infinity and beyond, right? And China is building more cities, not less. That means steel and cement demand should increase, yes?

    Or maybe I'm wrong. But have you seen the price of copper lately? Maybe Doctor Copper is telling us something.

    I just talked to Al Korelin. His listeners are worried about hyperinflation. I told him that with the inflation rate at 1.6% -- below the Fed's target of 2% -- hyperinflation is the least of our worries. But Fed money printing could goose commodities into the first quarter. Certainly someone's worried about inflation -- have you seen sales of gold and silver eagles for November? http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/30/us-usa-mint-coins-idUSBRE8AT0Z220121130

    Keep up the good work. And may https://twitter.com/Pontifex absolve you of all your sins.

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    1. Not worried about a China collapse RIGHT NOW - I'm worried about one occurring in the next few years. It's more a big picture broad brushstrokes thing.

      Is China's soft landing baked in WHERE? That's the thing. You have the Chinese domestic equity market, and the Chinese roundeye barbarian equity market, and they're going in 2 different directions. That to me looks like the roundeyes are the suckers at the table.

      We'll see. Like Sinocism says, the central government has to fight corruption and make it look like they're winning. That could turn things around in China. Problem especially is that all the money plowed into state-funded stimulus ends up getting stolen.

      One big thing to watch is the possible reform of Hukou. If you don't know what that is, you need to do some reading.

      Where do you see data indicating "Fed money printing"? Seriously, there's no such thing.

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  4. It's true that in regular QE "open market operations" are conducted simply by electronically changing the amount of base money that a bank has in its reserve account at the central bank. So, money isn't actually "printed," but it is created.
    For QE4, the Fed is buying $40 billion a month in mortgage backed securities (MBS). The Fed buys the MBS on the market. To pay for these assets, bank reserves in the form of new base money (for example newly printed cash) are transferred to the seller's bank and the seller's account is credited. At least, that's how it's been done in the past. I don't know for sure how they're doing it this time around. But it sure looks like there could be actual money printing going on. I suppose they could tranfer other forms of reserves to the banks in return for MBS.

    So far, we haven't seen a reaction in either inflation or the price of sensitive assets. The question is, is that pressure building up? That's what all the people buying gold and silver eagles are betting, maybe. However, I think the much more bullish development is the good economic news out of China. The disconnect between China A-shares and the ETFs is perplexing, and something I've been discussing with colleagues. Perhaps the Chinese think more than most that their market is rigged against small investors, so they're voting with their feet. Or perhaps you're right, and the big crash is yet to come. At least for the short-term though, Doctor Copper says the temperature of the global economy is heating up. Good luck to you, and good trades.

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    1. "Perhaps the Chinese think more than most that their market is rigged against small investors, so they're voting with their feet." That's the answer to your question, you can see it in the market. The chart says what the chart says. It's explained by basic sociology: when you have no faith in the socio-political superstructure you turn away from it.

      "That's what all the people buying gold and silver eagles are betting, maybe" - people buying gold and silver eagles are scared of the coming negro uprising. That's all. I put no stock in Americans buying coins. It's like predicting copper price moves by talking to ammo shop owners.

      "It sure looks like there could be actual money printing going on" sounds like a reply from a basically kind-hearted ZeroHedge reader. Money supply charts are out there, check them out.

      We're in DEflation right now.

      That's how economies respond to credit bubbles.

      You can't have inflation without an increase in aggregate demand.

      You've missed a lot if you haven't read these sentences in the last year.

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